A friendly request

There were a couple of Crypt players on our server today who didn't agree with a decision I made and who showed their displeasure by a vocal barrage of f*ck you's over VOIP.

I have a couple of things to say about that and I hope that you take this the way it's meant to be taken, with good intentions.

First about the issue in question, a kick vote. We relaxed the vote settings on our server, a vote is "valid" when 9 or more players vote and it will pass if the majority of those voters say "yes". The nice thing about this is that votes actually have a chance of passing but it also means that we're a bit "touchy" about people calling votes without offering an explanation (not in this case) or votes that we see as unwarranted, which definitely was the case here. If I'm on the server, I'll cancel such a vote and I will make clear to the person who called the vote, that I'm not very pleased with him.

Which brings me to my next point, we don't kick for "stupidity", we never have and we're not about to start doing that. You may not agree with that, which is your good right, but I would like to ask everyone to respect it nevertheless. It's our server, we determine the rules and we decide who's welcome to play and who isn't.

Again, this not a veiled threat or something like that, it's an explanation of how we operate and I hope that it will make you understand why I acted like I did. Which is not the same thing as agreeing with it .

Take care everyone.

Dr. Funkenstein

I would like to be the first to apologize for that behavior. How terrible of them. You've always seemed pretty level headed in the past. And even if you decided to be a complete jerk and kick everyone off the server: BH is YOUR server...
I don't take your message as a threat or anything and certainly appreciate you taking the time to come here and try to explain what happened and why.

Personally, I think those |CrYpT| members should own up to their actions and apologize. But maybe that's my moral compass talking. Hopefully this behavior is an isolated incident somehow brought about by a mix of alcohol and insomnia and cold weather that caused temporary insanity...

Thanks for your reply.

I'm not really looking for an apology, it's not about that. I didn't name the people involved in my first post because I don't want to turn this into something stupid.

What I'm asking for is some respect for the way people run their own server. We run ours the way we want to and you're doing the same on yours. You've managed to keep your server alive for a very long time, that's a major feat and I have a lot of respect for that. That's not an easy thing to do.

As I said earlier, all this is written with good intentions and I hope people will respond in a similar manner.

Dr. Funkenstein

Erich- it was me. Do not ever apologize for me. I will stay off the bh server and populate the crypt server where we continue kick dumbasses. Relaxed voting bullshit. Threaten to kick me for a stupid vote for a guy who was tking and slowing the whole team down? Fine.

I wasn't playing, but I heard about when that happened.

The guy who was on the server was throwing DMC's on their own spawn. Throwing violators on their own people. And rocket tking....

I agree with Sen's and Spiders request to kick.

The response Spider got was, "we don't kick for stupidity, but we do kick for stupid votes".

I back Spider and Sen.

harleyquinn wrote:

I wasn't playing, but I heard about when that happened.

The guy who was on the server was throwing DMC's on their own spawn. Throwing violators on their own people. And rocket tking....

I agree with Sen's and Spiders request to kick.

The response Spider got was, "we don't kick for stupidity, but we do kick for stupid votes".

I back Spider and Sen.

Sweet!

if true....

always looking for a active server i can be a total fuking asshat on and ruin other players gaming and have full immunity from being kicked -

Stupidity Rules and apparently it's even, rewarded!!

Yeah, it would appear as though on bh you can tk all you want, and if anyone votes to kick you, they'll get kicked for calling stupid votes

I was in the same room when it happened. It's def true

not doubting you.. i wasnt there is all..

whole thing seems odd to be honest..

BH peeps, from past experiences, never had a issue kicking AssHats..

especially Funk- he always seemed like a cool peep to me.. likes to keep the server clean and sides as even as possible..

anyways.. moving on..

peace out..

I think it was serenade that had the issue. meh. doesn't matter. I don't play on bh anyway. Just kinda thought it was funny that they wanted to kick spider instead of the guy rampaging against his own team

Don't think I'll ever like how bh runs their server(s). Played there a few times and didn't really enjoy myself.

I wasn't there, but I can tell from my dad's post and his past altercations with other server admins that the rant he must have went on was pretty epic. I can kinda see how people from bh would think though. They'd rather call a reasonable vote from another clan to kick stupid than recognize their own as a regular "asshat" as Loki put it. It's stupid, but I guess that's how it works out, eh?

Fun times. I have also found Funk to be level headed.

Stupidity I can see. People learning the game and all that. Intentional tking is another thing all together. Funk, you guys still kick for intentional tk right?

yeah Bh has always been kind of picky about kick votes, every time they ask why the vote was called. Its bullshit what went down. Doc is pretty level headed and is a good guy, and I don't think he had the whole story when he posted. ussally I started tk'ing the guy in question just to keep him out of action as much as possible. Probably would have been kicked myself but thats just the way I roll. So far haven't been kicked from any server for tk'ing asshats. I only resort to my tk'ing ways when admins won't take care of the problem, or the noobs won't hit F1 on the kick votes, which in my opinion makes the stupid asshat fair game.

Funk gets on my case when I build MG nests that he deems unnecessary

fodder wrote:

Funk gets on my case when I build MG nests that he deems unnecessary

True! And I hate you for it, but I'm expressing my opinion as a player

Dr. Funkenstein

You can learn the game in single player, and with bots... that's the way it should be done.

With so few servers left up to have some idiot who doesn't know what he's doing repeatedly tking you is extremely frustrating, and makes people want to quit. It will kill your server quickly.

Spider asked several times for him to quit throwing violaters and DMC's near their own base, I heard him ask... and whoever it was continued to do it.

To be a newb and do something stupid once is one thing, but to continue to be a tard after being specifically told what your doing is a degradation to your team is just being an obstinate moron.

DrFunkenstein wrote:

fodder wrote:

Funk gets on my case when I build MG nests that he deems unnecessary

True! And I hate you for it, but I'm expressing my opinion as a player

Dr. Funkenstein

wow that seems awfully harsh.. i mean, we all hate Fodder cause he's a total noob..

but dam, hating on the guy cause he builds mg nest's, that are part of the game..

well, that's just mean..

I could think of better things to bitch about than someone taking 20 seconds to build an MG nest.

As a CrYpT admin, I have a simple “stupid player” kick policy. Let’s say I have 2-3 noobs on my team. I try to give them VOIP instructions to help them learn the game. After about ½ the map, if they haven’t started to help, I kick 4-6 people on the opposite team to even things out. It’s important for the games to be enjoyable to me ; )

you kick people who are playing well, so you can keep the people who don't know what they're doing?

I think Bankonit is humor impaired sometimes. That was supposed to be a joke I think?

I hope so.... anyhow... I'm over this topic.... noobs suck, and i prefer them to learn somewhere that isnt a populated server.

bankonit wrote:

As a CrYpT admin, I have a simple “stupid player” kick policy. Let’s say I have 2-3 noobs on my team. I try to give them VOIP instructions to help them learn the game. After about ½ the map, if they haven’t started to help, I kick 4-6 people on the opposite team to even things out. It’s important for the games to be enjoyable to me ; )

Totally funny.

I saw the humor. Some people do not understand sarcasm.

My bad. sarcasm can often be lost without intonation of the voice.

senilityiscool2 wrote:

bankonit wrote:

As a CrYpT admin, I have a simple “stupid player” kick policy. Let’s say I have 2-3 noobs on my team. I try to give them VOIP instructions to help them learn the game. After about ½ the map, if they haven’t started to help, I kick 4-6 people on the opposite team to even things out. It’s important for the games to be enjoyable to me ; )

Totally funny.

I saw the humor. Some people do not understand sarcasm.

I had a good laugh about it.